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Mack Brown

Followed John Mackovic. Mack Brown raised Texas from Power Program II to Blue Blood.

The ascent
282–150
1985–2013 · 3 stints
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Career arc

His real stature score, season by season, across every program he’s coached — so a stretch that stays in one tier the whole way can still climb or sink on the line, not just flatten out. Node color marks the tier reached. Which program a stretch belongs to is carried by the shaded lane behind it.

Stature score reached, by season of his head-coaching careerTULANENORTH CAROLINATEXASDynastythe sport's summitBlue Bloodpermanent top tierPower Programperennial contenderNational Programrespectable, streakyRegional Programthe building-block levelTulane, 1985: 1-10, Regional Program II1985Tulane, 1986: 4-7, Regional Program IITulane, 1987: 6-6, Regional Program II1987-4.2North Carolina, 1988: 1-10, National Program II1988North Carolina, 1989: 1-10, National Program IIINorth Carolina, 1990: 6-4, National Program IIINorth Carolina, 1991: 7-4, National Program IIINorth Carolina, 1992: 9-3, National Program IINorth Carolina, 1993: 10-3, National Program IINorth Carolina, 1994: 8-4, National Program IINorth Carolina, 1995: 7-5, National Program INorth Carolina, 1996: 10-2, Power Program IIINorth Carolina, 1997: 10-1, Power Program IIINorth Carolina, 2019: 7-6, National Program IINorth Carolina, 2020: 8-4, National Program INorth Carolina, 2021: 6-7, National Program INorth Carolina, 2022: 9-5, National Program INorth Carolina, 2023: 8-5, National Program INorth Carolina, 2024: 6-6, National Program I2024+4.6Texas, 1998: 9-3, Power Program II1998Texas, 1999: 9-5, Power Program IITexas, 2000: 9-3, Power Program IITexas, 2001: 11-2, Power Program ITexas, 2002: 11-2, Power Program ITexas, 2003: 10-3, Power Program ITexas, 2004: 11-1, Power Program ITexas, 2005: 13-0, Blue BloodTexas, 2006: 10-3, Blue BloodTexas, 2007: 10-3, Blue BloodTexas, 2008: 12-1, Blue BloodTexas, 2009: 13-1, Blue BloodTexas, 2010: 5-7, Blue BloodTexas, 2011: 8-5, Blue BloodTexas, 2012: 9-4, Blue BloodTexas, 2013: 8-5, Blue Blood2013+21.4One point per coached season, in career order; dashed segments are program changes — spacing is not proportional to calendar time

Reached Blue Blood in his 27th career season — faster than 0% of the 100 FBS coaches who have ever reached Blue Blood (rank #100 of 100 by seasons-to-arrival).

Tulane, 3 seasons
−4.2
Regional Program II → Regional Program II.
North Carolina, 16 seasons
+4.6
National Program II → National Program I.
Texas, 16 seasons
+21.4
Power Program II → Blue Blood.

Style position and drift

Where each stint’s offense sat between run-first and pass-first, and how far it moved from one season to the next. The band is that stint’s real season-to-season range, not a fixed-width box.

40%50%North Carolina1988–2024▼ 0.8pt
Pass rate — share of offensive plays that were pass attemptsfirst covered seasonmost recent covered seasonfull season-to-season range (3+ covered seasons)
How much that is, against every other stint

Season-to-season pass-rate range for all 258 FBS coaching stints with at least three covered seasons, 2014–2025.

Typical stint7.010.2 median13.9middle half of all stints
North Carolina8.7pt#157 of 258 · a typical amount

The big-game ledger

How he does in the games that matter most — rivalry record, performance broken out by real opponent tier, one-score games, and his toughest historical matchup.

48–29 against his rivals. Winless in 5 tries against Dick Sheridan.

Rivalry record
48–29
62.3% · 6 rivals
One-score games
71–57–1
55.0% · margin ≤8
vs. Blue Blood or better
3–1
75.0%
Rivalry ledger
Oklahoma7–944%
Texas Tech13–381%
NC State7–847%
Duke12–286%
Texas A&M9–469%
LSU0–30%
The toughest matchupNemesis
vs. Dick Sheridan0–5
5 meetings, 1988–1992
’88 L’89 L’90 L’91 L’92 L
Performance by opponent class
Dynasty
3–1 75.0%
Blue Blood
10–21 32.3%
Power Program
52–48 52.0%
National Program
77–49 61.1%
Regional Program
117–20 85.4%

His own effect, isolated

A statistical estimate of this coach’s contribution to team performance, separated from that season’s roster talent, returning production, and his coordinators — pooled across his whole head-coaching career.

Offense marginal impact
+0.53
#19 of 319 · more than most
Defense marginal impact
-0.36
#306 of 325 · less than most

Model fit as of 2026-09-04.

What fans are saying

Fan claims · every quote verified verbatim

job securityLimited signal that season

fans believe Lombardi's departure is linked to unspecified misconduct

I’ve read a couple of articles about the Lombardi situation but no one seems to know the specifics yet. Are there any good rumors about what he’s actually being investigated for?

maybe not this season because it's too late, but next season: Lombardi gets fired this year and UNC goes like 10-2 next year with actual P5 players

Based on 2 comments from 2 posters across 2 threads · Jul 28, 2026–Jul 29, 2026 · via CFB, tarheels

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recruiting effortOne fan's take that season

One fan believes Mack Brown was a poor recruiter and developer

Yeah I just feel like as time went on Mack became a worse recruiter and was useless with player development leading to us having to do the whole overhaul in the first place.

Based on 1 comment from 1 poster across 1 thread · Sep 7, 2025 · via CFB

Coaching career

1998–2013
Texasbuilderborderline
Power Program II → Blue Blood
Mack Brown raised Texas from Power Program II to Blue Blood.

2nd-best Texas tenure of 12 by the numbers.

Followed John Mackovic (1992–1997) · succeeded by Charlie Strong (2014–2016).

Where the roster comes from, by position
Grows Edge from high school
100%
#191 of 208 stints
Grows Running back from high school
100%
#196 of 208 stints

59 NFL Draft picks: Chris Akins (1998), Ricky Williams (1999), Wane McGarity (1999), Jay Humphrey (1999), Cedric Woodard (2000), Leonard Davis (2001), Casey Hampton (2001), Shaun Rogers (2001) + 51 more

158–48
1988–2024
North Carolinacaretaker
National Program I → Power Program III
Mack Brown moved North Carolina from National Program I to Power Program III in 16 seasons.

3rd-best North Carolina tenure of 17 by the numbers.

Recruiter or developer?

Performs about as expected for his recruiting talent on offense and underperforms his recruiting talent on defense.

Offense vs. talent
+11.6 pts
#59 of 208 · a typical amount
Defense vs. talent
-25.9 pts
#191 of 208 · less than most
Recruiting talent is team-wide (no offense/defense split exists in the source data) -- both sides are scored against the same talent input, only the outcome is side-specific.

Followed Dick Crum (1978–1987) · succeeded by Bill Belichick (2025–2026).

Season1988198919901991199219931994199519961997199819992000200120022003200420052006200720082009201020112012201320142015201620172018201920202021202220232024Trend
Record & result
Record1–101–106–47–49–310–38–47–510–210–17–53–86–58–53–92–106–65–63–94–88–58–58–57–68–47–66–711–38–53–92–97–68–46–79–58–50–1
PostseasonL bowlL bowlCFP lossW bowlL bowlL bowlL bowlL bowlL bowl
Recruiting rank#30#28#32#29#20#30#19#14#11#30#26
Style — pass rate
Pass rate50.643.753.348.850.744.942.042.750.848.044.1
Coordinators
OCChris Kapilovic / Seth LittrellSeth LittrellChris Kapilovic / Gunter BrewerChris Kapilovic / Gunter BrewerChris KapilovicPhil LongoPhil LongoPhil LongoPhil LongoChip LindseyChip Lindsey
DCDan Disch / Ron WestGene ChizikGene ChizikJohn PapuchisJohn PapuchisJay Bateman / Tommy ThigpenJay Bateman / Tommy ThigpenJay Bateman / Tommy ThigpenCharlton Warren / Gene Chizik / Tommy ThigpenCharlton Warren / Gene Chizik / Tommy ThigpenGeoff Collins / Tommy Thigpen
Outcome — opponent-adjusted efficiency percentile
Offense5499822837939978847644
Defense01848393375332552835
Tendencies — play-by-play, neutral script (2021+ only)
1st-down pass%47.041.546.443.045.544.743.143.147.248.436.8
Red-zone pass%32.239.645.339.534.350.832.342.054.739.227.9
4th-down go%opp. territory41.018.431.651.625.033.340.524.256.632.451.2
Roster construction · portal era

Barely touches the portal — recruits and develops his own.

Portal arrivals
26
3.2★ avg rating
Portal departures
78
left via the portal
Net portal flow
-52
#155 of 187 FBS stints
Notable portal arrivals with a modeled NIL value
Howard Sampson On3 modeled · $2,000,000
On3’s modeled estimate (social reach / exposure), not money actually paid — shown per player, never totaled.
Who they bring in

Brings in bigger-than-position-typical players than most.

Recruits older, more experienced transfers than most.

Avg. size (raw)
6′2″, 247 lbs
across 21 of 26 arrivals — unadjusted for position mix
Size vs. position-typical
+9.1 lbs
#24 of 255 · more than most
Avg. class year
Sr
#4 of 255 · more than most
Top states: GA (6), FL (4), NC (2), TX (2), TN (1)
Who won the portal our read
Talent added
57.0
position-weighted
Talent lost
60.6
position-weighted
Net
-3.6
arrivals minus departures
Best addition: Max Johnson (QB) from Texas A&M
Biggest loss: Tad Hudson (QB) to Coastal Carolina
Position-value-weighted (QB/CB weighted highest, depth-decayed within each position) — the same scoring engine as the Portal Heat feed, not a separate grade.
Does the system survive a coordinator change?
OC: co-Chris Kapilovic / co-Seth Littrell → Seth Littrell · 2015
54th pct99th pct0th100th
1-season window either side — numbers shown, not enough to badge a verdict.
1st-down pass rate: 47.0% → 41.5% (-5.5 pts)
Confound, shown not hidden: only 88% of offensive production returned the year the coordinator changed — the roster turned over at the same time, not just the play-caller.
OC: Seth Littrell → co-Chris Kapilovic / co-Gunter Brewer · 2016
99th pct82nd pct0th100th
1-season window either side — numbers shown, not enough to badge a verdict.
1st-down pass rate: 41.5% → 46.4% (+5.0 pts)
Confound, shown not hidden: only 57% of offensive production returned the year the coordinator changed — the roster turned over at the same time, not just the play-caller.
OC: co-Chris Kapilovic / co-Gunter Brewer → Chris Kapilovic · 2018
28th pct37th pct0th100th
1-season window either side — numbers shown, not enough to badge a verdict.
1st-down pass rate: 43.0% → 45.5% (+2.4 pts)
Confound, shown not hidden: only 82% of offensive production returned the year the coordinator changed — the roster turned over at the same time, not just the play-caller.
DC: co-Dan Disch / co-Ron West → Gene Chizik · 2015
0th pct18th pct0th100th
1-season window either side — numbers shown, not enough to badge a verdict.
DC: Gene Chizik → John Papuchis · 2017the system held
33rd pct36th pct0th100th
2-season window either side.
DC: co-Jay Bateman / co-Tommy Thigpen → co-Charlton Warren / Gene Chizik / co-Tommy Thigpen · 2022the system held
29th pct17th pct0th100th
2-season window either side.
Roster size, by position
Skill positions · usage-weighted (real participation)
Quarterback
224 lbs
6′3″ avg · #95 of 767 · more than most
Running back
215 lbs
5′11″ avg · #134 of 791 · more than most
Wide receiver
192 lbs
6′0″ avg · #450 of 791 · a typical amount
Tight end
241 lbs
6′4″ avg · #520 of 731 · a typical amount
Trench & secondary · recruited roster, not confirmed starters
Interior line
311 lbs
6′4″ avg · #310 of 779 · a typical amount
D-line
288 lbs
6′4″ avg · #303 of 753 · a typical amount
Linebacker
229 lbs
6′2″ avg · #362 of 772 · a typical amount
Cornerback
194 lbs
6′0″ avg · #178 of 771 · more than most
Offensive-line size is one undifferentiated bucket — the source data almost never distinguishes tackle from guard from center, so we can't split them out.
Where the roster comes from, by position
Grows P from high school
80%
#29 of 29 stints
Grows K from high school
89%
#52 of 56 stints
Postseason detail2014: Lost to Rutgers 21–40 Quick Lane Bowl2015: Lost to Baylor 38–49 Russell Athletic Bowl2016: Lost to Stanford 23–25 CFP2019: Beat Temple 55–13 Military Bowl Presented By Northrop Grumman2020: Lost to Texas A&M 27–41 Capital One Orange Bowl2021: Lost to South Carolina 21–38 Duke's Mayo Bowl2022: Lost to Oregon 27–28 San Diego County Credit Union Holiday Bowl2023: Lost to West Virginia 10–30 Duke's Mayo Bowl2024: Lost to UConn 14–27 Wasabi Fenway Bowl

116 NFL Draft picks: Darrell Hamilton (1989), Torin Dorn (1990), Kevin Donnalley (1991), Brian Bollinger (1992), Dwight Hollier (1992), Roy Barker (1992), Deems May (1992), Thomas Smith (1993) + 108 more

3 player-seasons honored (All-America / national award): Chazz Surratt (2020), Omarion Hampton (2023), Omarion Hampton (2024)

113–79
1985–1987
Tulanecaretaker
Regional Program I → Regional Program II
Mack Brown slid Tulane from Regional Program I to Regional Program II in 3 seasons.

16th-best Tulane tenure of 23 by the numbers.

Followed Wally English (1983–1984) · succeeded by Greg Davis (1988–1991).

2 NFL Draft picks: Burnell Dent (1986), Eric Thomas (1987)

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