The Zeitgeist List · Rivalries

Charlotte-App State

App State5-0Charlotte
National Program III#70 of 138–Regional Program V#131 of 138–
See both programs’ full 91-year Zeitgeist History, side by side →
This year’s game — the live preview →
4 players crossed straight to the rival since 2021 — the turncoat ledger →

App State leads the all-time series 5-0. They've met 5 times since 2018. App State has won the last 5.

Current season

Vegas win totals and transfer-portal swing right now, plus what fans are actually saying — not history, this year.

App State
Transfer portal
-4
portal net points (weighted) · raw ledger: -28
What fans are saying · player performance
One fan believes tryout performances predict pro success
The SBC rated the guy 3rd team. I could care less about his freaking NFL combine ratings. Evidently he was so bad he rated 3rd team SBC.
Verified verbatim
Charlotte
Transfer portal
-3
portal net points (weighted) · raw ledger: -14

Stature & the series, 2018–2026

Both programs’ standing over time, each line named at its end, with every meeting beneath — read down to see who was bigger and who won. (Stature is each program’s season-by-season standing on the Zeitgeist List, 1936–present — one score blending on-field performance, program achievement, and roster talent.)

program stature over timeApp StateCharlotteevery meeting (bar height = margin; dark: App State won, gray: Charlotte won)198020002020

The identity war

5 seasons isn’t an era. Here’s what changed anyway.

App State and Charlotte have only 5 seasons of real play-level data in common (2022–2026). Not enough for an identity war — but the numbers moved.

20222026App State 50%Charlotte 50%
Source team_season_stats (CFBD season totals)

App State once won 5 in a row. The biggest win was App State by 36 in 2018. The biggest crowd, 35,718, was in 2025.

The coaching duels

Dowell Loggains vs Tim Albin2-0

The draft ledger

Every NFL Draft pick either program has produced since the modern era began, decade by decade.

Draft picks
25-5
App State leads
1st-rounders
0-0
Since
1967
First CFBD-carried draft class
App StateCharlotte
1980s1-0
1990s6-0
2000s3-0
2010s9-2
2020s6-3

Best picks, either side

2012Brian Quick Wide Receiver · St. Louis RamsRd 2, pick 1#33 overall
1986Dino Hackett Linebacker · Kansas City ChiefsRd 2, pick 8#35 overall
2008Dexter Jackson Wide Receiver · Tampa Bay BuccaneersRd 2, pick 27#58 overall
1997Dexter Coakley Linebacker · Dallas CowboysRd 3, pick 5#65 overall
2017Larry Ogunjobi Defensive Tackle · Cleveland BrownsRd 3, pick 1#65 overall
1993Harold Alexander Punter · Atlanta FalconsRd 3, pick 11#67 overall
2019Nate Davis Offensive Guard · Tennessee TitansRd 3, pick 18#82 overall
2010Armanti Edwards Wide Receiver · Carolina PanthersRd 3, pick 25#89 overall

Recent meetings

2026App State26-21
2025App State34-11
2020App State35-20
2019App State56-41
2018App State45-9

Every meeting since 2018, play by play

Each line is App State’s chance to win through that meeting.

2026App State 26-21App State won 26-21 vs Charlotte. Chance to win started at 91%, low 84%, high better than 99%.
2025App State 34-11App State won 34-11 vs Charlotte. Chance to win started at 69%, low 55%, high better than 99%.Busy
2020App State 35-20App State won 35-20 vs Charlotte. Chance to win started at 87%, low 61%, high 99%.
2019App State 56-41App State won 56-41 vs Charlotte. Chance to win started at 96%, low 84%, high better than 99%.
2018App State 45-9App State won 45-9 at Charlotte. Chance to win started at 82%, low 80%, high better than 99%.
Read a quote from each meeting
  • 2026
    “Oh this is going to be a sickos game lol”
    An App State fan
  • 2025
    “A goddamn NFL stadium and we don't have a goal line cam?”
    An App State fan