KU Kansas 2-4 24 KSU Kansas State 4-2 35 Final Kansas State beat Kansas 35-24. Share this game
We had Kansas State favored. It won.
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first interception for KSU this season!
Q4 10:02 · r/CFB game thread · Sat, Oct 17 How it swung Watch the plays Drives Box score Weather Before kickoff How it swung The turning point: Marshall 12-yd TD pass to McMillan, Kansas goes ahead 14-7 (Q1, 4:21). Kansas State went from 61% to 38% to win. Fans right then: “That’s a weak call” r/CFB game thread
Before kickoff, our ratings gave Kansas State a 59% chance, and the closing betting line (Kansas State was a 3-point favorite) put it at 60%.
Kansas State came back from 10 down, at one point just a 22% chance in the first quarter.
Kansas led by 10, was as high as 78% in the first quarter, and still lost.
Kickoff return TD Kansas · Q1 13:0417 unanswered Kansas · Q1 4:21Safety Kansas State · Q2 1:39Final Kansas State 35-24 Kansas Kansas State won Move across the chart, or tap a numbered swing, to see any play. Final Kansas 24-35 Kansas State Kansas lost Move across the chart, or tap a numbered swing, to see any play. 50% 25% 75% 90% Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 67% at half Kansas State Kansas Lowest 22% Won 35-24 1 2 −23 +20 Scores Kickoff return TD Safety K. 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See it from Kansas’s side The two plays that swung it
1 Q1 4:21 Marshall 12-yd TD pass to McMillan, Kansas goes ahead 14-7 Kansas State 61% → 38% (−23) 2 Q3 6:32 Jackson 8-yd TD run, Kansas State goes ahead 25-24 Kansas State 45% → 65% (+20) The two plays that swung it
1 Q1 4:21 Marshall 12-yd TD pass to McMillan, Kansas goes ahead 14-7 Kansas 39% → 62% (+23) 2 Q3 6:32 Jackson 8-yd TD run, Kansas State goes ahead 25-24 Kansas 55% → 35% (−20) What fans said, play by play
The line in bold above each quote is written by our model from the thread’s comments and the play-by-play.
Q1 3:20 Kansas fans celebrate Marshall's nullified touchdown as officials rule a holding penalty Weak ass call r/CFB game thread That’s a weak call r/CFB game thread Q2 1:43 Kansas punter Gill fumbles for a safety, cutting the lead to 17-15 Damn I think I understand what Kansas fans have been trying to tell me all last week. r/CFB game thread Gill has to be the worst punter in CFB. r/CFB game thread Q4 10:02 Marshall's pass intercepted by Bartley as Kansas State fans celebrate the turnover Quoted at the top of the page. Kansas State’s chance to win after every play. How to read this chart Starts from the pregame line (Kansas State -3), at 67% for Kansas State (the play-by-play feed's kickoff number, moved to match the line; our model's and the betting line's own numbers are in “The betting line, and the fans”). Dots are the biggest swings; ticks under the chart are scores. Outlined diamonds mark rare plays. Under the scores, r/CFB comments per minute from fans with a Kansas State or Kansas flair (456 and 368); both sides share one scale, regulation only. A gold diamond marks a play fans were reacting to. Watch the plays The bar and the arrow show Kansas State’s chance to win after each play; the logo is the team the play helped.
Play all in order Q1, 13:17 Fields 4-yd TD run Kansas State goes ahead 7-0 Q1, 13:17 · Kansas State 7, Kansas 0 ▲18% Kansas State’s chance to win, 68% to 86% ▲18% Kansas State’s chance to win, 68% to 86% ▶ Watch from this playCFB ON FOX Q1, 3:20 Johnson 6-yd pass to Cure fumbled Q1, 3:20 · Kansas State 7, Kansas 14 ▲3% Kansas State’s chance to win, 30% to 33% ▲3% Kansas State’s chance to win, 30% to 33% ▶ Watch from this playCFB ON FOX Q3, 6:32 Jackson 8-yd TD run Kansas State goes ahead 25-24 Q3, 6:32 · Kansas State 25, Kansas 24 ▲20% Kansas State’s chance to win, 45% to 65% ▲20% Kansas State’s chance to win, 45% to 65% ▶ Watch from this playCFB ON FOX Q4, 10:02 Marshall intercepted by Bartley at the KSTATE00 returned 16 yards Q4, 10:02 · Kansas State 25, Kansas 24 ▲16% Kansas State’s chance to win, 53% to 69% ▲16% Kansas State’s chance to win, 53% to 69% ▶ Watch from this playCFB ON FOX Q4, 8:28 Johnson 9-yd TD pass to Tibbs Kansas State leads 32-24 Q4, 8:28 · Kansas State 32, Kansas 24 ▲10% Kansas State’s chance to win, 78% to 88% ▲10% Kansas State’s chance to win, 78% to 88% ▶ Watch from this playCFB ON FOX
Every drive Kansas State scored on 8 of its 13 drives; Kansas on 3 of its 11.
Kansas State’s drives are teal, Kansas’s amber. A line runs from where a drive started to where it ended; a filled dot means it scored.
own goal goal line Q1 Kansas State: Touchdown, from 75 yards out to 0 Touchdown Kansas State: Touchdown, from 65 yards out to 0 Touchdown Kansas State: Turned over on downs, from 75 yards out to 12 Downs Kansas: Touchdown, from 88 yards out to 0 Touchdown Kansas State: Fumble, from 73 yards out to 73 Fumble Kansas: Field goal, from 27 yards out to 13 Field goal Kansas State: Field goal, from 75 yards out to 4 Field goal Q2 Kansas: Punt, from 75 yards out to 67 Punt Kansas State: Field goal, from 64 yards out to 32 Field goal Kansas: Punt, from 75 yards out to 73 Punt Kansas State: Punt, from 59 yards out to 40 Punt Kansas: Safety, from 91 yards out to 100 Safety Kansas State: Field goal, from 51 yards out to 10 Field goal Kansas: End of half, from 75 yards out to 78 End of half Q3 Kansas: Touchdown, from 75 yards out to 0 Touchdown Kansas State: Touchdown, from 65 yards out to 0 Touchdown Kansas: Punt, from 75 yards out to 72 Punt Kansas State: Turned over on downs, from 57 yards out to 1 Downs Q4 Kansas: Interception, from 99 yards out to 18 Interception Kansas State: Touchdown, from 84 yards out to 0 Touchdown Kansas: Punt, from 78 yards out to 61 Punt Kansas State: Field goal, from 79 yards out to 16 Field goal Kansas: Turned over on downs, from 75 yards out to 44 Downs Kansas State: End of game, from 56 yards out to 58 End of game “Gonna enjoy this lead while it lasts” A Kansas fan How fans reacted Quiet
The jump was quiet; the crowd was steady.
First Second Third Fourth Kansas State fans Kansas fans usual Box score Kansas State 35, Kansas 24
Kansas State covered −3 by 8. The total, 59, went over 55.5.
Kansas Kansas State Total yards Kansas 319 Kansas State 568 319 568 Passing yards Kansas 151 Kansas State 209 151 209 Rushing yards Kansas 168 Kansas State 359 168 359 First downs Kansas 18 Kansas State 25 18 25 Turnovers Kansas 1 Kansas State 1 1 1 Time of possession Kansas 23:47 Kansas State 36:13 23:47 36:13 Team totals Kansas Kansas State Total yards 319 568 Passing 12 of 26, 151 yds 14 of 24, 209 yds Rushing 34 for 168 yds 51 for 359 yds First downs 18 25 Third down 3 of 11 6 of 13 Fourth down 1 of 3 0 of 2 Turnovers 1 1 Penalties 7 for 66 yds 5 for 55 yds Time of possession 23:47 36:13
Kansas leaders Passing Isaiah Marshall 12 of 26, 151 yds, 1 TD, 1 INTRushing Isaiah Marshall 14 for 117 yds; Dylan Edwards 16 for 57 yds, 1 TDReceiving Nik McMillan 5 for 55 yds, 1 TD; Leyton Cure 2 for 44 ydsKansas State leaders Passing Avery Johnson 14 of 24, 209 yds, 1 TDRushing Joe Jackson 27 for 159 yds, 1 TD; Avery Johnson 12 for 132 ydsReceiving Derrick Salley Jr. 2 for 70 yds; Jaron Tibbs 5 for 67 yds, 1 TDNo rain and calm 50° at kickoff · no rain recorded · wind 9 mph from the southwest, mostly at an angle to the field, gusts to 20
The usual here around this date is 62°, with about 7 in 10 games between 49° and 72°.
October game-day temperatures at Bill Snyder Family Stadium
Win chance with rain, wind and thunder from the nearest airport, by game time Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Kansas State favored Kansas favored 100% Win chance Kansas State Rain inches per 10 min 0.1 in No rain recorded Wind mph, average and gusts 20 mph 40 mph Win chance with rain, wind and thunder from the nearest airport, by game time Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Kansas State favored Kansas favored Rain · inches per 10 min 0.1 in No rain recorded Wind · miles per hour 20 40 Drag along the chart, or step through the game.
First quarter, 4:21 left11:33 a.m.
Kansas 14, Kansas State 7 · Kansas State 38% to win
no rain · wind 8 mph from the southwest, gusts to 18 · 53°
Marshall 12-yd TD pass to McMillan, Kansas goes ahead 14-7
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Jump to Biggest swing: 23 points of win chance · first Where this weather comes from Measured at Manhattan airport, 6.4 miles away. Wind and rain are airport readings near the stadium, not on the field. Game times come from the play-by-play, good to a minute or two. Source: National Weather Service, through the Iowa Environmental Mesonet. Field direction from OpenStreetMap contributors.
Before kickoff Recent games, the series and the betting line below are as they stood going in; the season profile is the season so far.
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Matchups Biggest mismatch: Kansas’s explosive plays against Kansas State, 90 points Each row ranks the two sides among all teams. The longer the line, the bigger the mismatch.
Kansas’s explosive plays against Kansas State’s defense
90 points weaker stronger 50th Kansas offense, 95th percentile · Kansas State defense, 5th
Kansas’s rushing EPA against Kansas State’s defense
47 points weaker stronger 50th Kansas offense, 68th percentile · Kansas State defense, 21st
Kansas’s success rate against Kansas State’s defense
26 points weaker stronger 50th Kansas offense, 62nd percentile · Kansas State defense, 88th
Season profile, all the rows Season profile Kansas Kansas State
EPA/play, offense
Kansas · 64 Kansas State · 84 EPA/play, defense
Kansas · 83 Kansas State · 55 Success rate, offense
Kansas · 62 Kansas State · 90 Success rate, defense
Kansas · 84 Kansas State · 88 Explosive-play rate, offense
Kansas · 95 Kansas State · 32 Explosive-play rate, defense
Kansas · 27 Kansas State · 5 Rush EPA, offense
Kansas · 68 Kansas State · 94 Rush EPA, defense
Kansas · 87 Kansas State · 21 Pass EPA, offense
Kansas · 57 Kansas State · 63 Pass EPA, defense
Kansas · 50 Kansas State · 72 The series Kansas leads the series 65-53-5
123 meetings since 1902 · Kansas State has won the last 17
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Line, fans and home field The betting line, and the fans Kansas State fans are feeling it more than most fanbases this week (74th among FBS fanbases), in line with the numbers.
50-50 Model 59% · Line 60% Kansas State fans ·… Kansas fans · 44th Kansas Kansas State Kansas State favored by 3 · Total 55.5
How games like this usually go Kansas State by 3, and it went to form 50% 90% Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 50% 90% Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Half of games 8 in 10 games This game
The band is where a favorite’s chance ran in the 252 games since 2025 with a favorite of under 3.5 points.
The market The spread moved 4.5 points toward Kansas.
opened −7.5 now −3 The total rose 1 point.
opened 54.5 now 55.5 Spread: −7.5 → −3 · Total: 54.5 → 55.5
The books’ cut: 4.3%, the margin built into the odds
Home field Kansas State is worth +5.3 points (±3.7) more at home than on the road since 2018 — top third of FBS, 72nd percentile.
65% at home, 44% on the road against FBS opponents (32-17 home, 18-23 away).
Our model gives every stadium the same flat 2.3-point home edge (why ); the books use about 3. Against the closing line this stadium reads +3.2 at home vs. away over 98 games — inside the ±6.5 noise, so the flat number is the honest one here.
The visitors travel about 74 miles to get here.
Last meeting in our History pages Our History pages cover 9 of their meetings since 2015.