WAKE Wake Forest 5-1 38 NCSU NC State 3-3 14 Final Wake Forest beat NC State 38-14. Share this game
We had NC State favored. Wake Forest won.
Top comment in the game thread
I’m glad to hear the fans booing to express their frustration because I’m not there to do it
Q3 0:52 · r/CFB game thread · Sat, Oct 10 How it swung Drives What it cost Box score Weather Before kickoff How it swung The turning point: Wilson 2-yd TD pass to Provience, NC State goes ahead 14-7 (Q2, 9:42). Wake Forest went from 51% to 28% to win.
Before kickoff, our ratings gave Wake Forest a 49% chance, and the closing betting line (Wake Forest was a 4-point favorite) put it at 63%.
Wake Forest won by 24, after dipping to 22% in the second quarter.
Up to 78% in the second quarter, then NC State lost it.
31 unanswered Wake Forest · Q3 10:44Final Wake Forest 38-14 NC State Wake Forest won Move across the chart, or tap a numbered swing, to see any play. Final NC State 14-38 Wake Forest NC State lost Move across the chart, or tap a numbered swing, to see any play. 50% 25% 75% 90% Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 41% at half Wake Forest NC State Lowest 22% Won 38-14 1 2 −23 +19 Scores Wake Forest NC State Wake Forest fans: 1 comments a minute Wake Forest fans: 1 comments a minute Wake Forest fans: 0 comments a minute Wake Forest fans: 0 comments a minute Wake Forest fans: 0 comments a minute Wake Forest fans: 1 comments a minute Wake Forest fans: 0 comments a minute Wake Forest fans: 0 comments a minute Wake Forest fans: 1 comments a minute Wake Forest fans: 1 comments a minute Wake Forest fans: 0 comments a minute Wake Forest fans: 2 comments a minute Wake Forest fans: 3 comments a minute Wake Forest fans: 0 comments a minute Wake Forest fans: 0 comments a minute Wake Forest fans: 3 comments a minute Wake Forest fans: 1 comments a minute Wake Forest fans: 2 comments a minute Wake Forest fans: 1 comments a minute Wake Forest fans: 2 comments a minute Wake 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See it from NC State’s side The two plays that swung it
1 Q2 9:42 Wilson 2-yd TD pass to Provience, NC State goes ahead 14-7 Wake Forest 51% → 28% (−23) 2 Q3 10:44 Lopez 6-yd TD pass to Hernandez, Wake Forest goes ahead 17-14 Wake Forest 45% → 64% (+19) The two plays that swung it
1 Q2 9:42 Wilson 2-yd TD pass to Provience, NC State goes ahead 14-7 NC State 49% → 72% (+23) 2 Q3 10:44 Lopez 6-yd TD pass to Hernandez, Wake Forest goes ahead 17-14 NC State 55% → 36% (−19) What fans said, play by play
The line in bold above each quote is written by our model from the thread’s comments and the play-by-play.
Q3 3:41 NC State fans blame Dave Doeren as Lopez connects with Foley for a 36-yard gain I hope whichever reporter Dave hit with “Btw we won that game” comes back today asking him why this team has been outscored significantly in every single 2nd half this season r/CFB game thread Q3 0:52 Quoted at the top of the page. NC State isn’t a serious program and will end up in the same division at App. r/CFB game thread Q4 11:24 Wake Forest fans celebrate a bloodbath as NC State appears to quit More. Bloodbath. r/CFB game thread No! Let us keep playing the under dog lol r/CFB game thread Wake Forest’s chance to win after every play. How to read this chart Starts from the pregame line (Wake Forest -4), at 57% for Wake Forest (the play-by-play feed's kickoff number, moved to match the line; our model's and the betting line's own numbers are in “The betting line, and the fans”). Dots are the biggest swings; ticks under the chart are scores. Outlined diamonds mark rare plays. Under the scores, r/CFB comments per minute from fans with a NC State or Wake Forest flair (427 and 140); both sides share one scale, regulation only. A gold diamond marks a play fans were reacting to.
Every drive Wake Forest scored on 6 of its 10 drives; NC State on 2 of its 9.
Wake Forest’s drives are teal, NC State’s amber. A line runs from where a drive started to where it ended; a filled dot means it scored.
own goal goal line Q1 NC State: Fumble, from 75 yards out to 70 Fumble Wake Forest: Touchdown, from 2 yards out to 0 Touchdown NC State: Touchdown, from 75 yards out to 0 Touchdown Wake Forest: Punt, from 75 yards out to 49 Punt NC State: Touchdown, from 96 yards out to 0 Touchdown Q2 Wake Forest: Punt, from 78 yards out to 79 Punt NC State: Punt, from 62 yards out to 43 Punt Wake Forest: Field goal, from 95 yards out to 6 Field goal Q3 Wake Forest: Touchdown, from 73 yards out to 0 Touchdown NC State: Punt, from 75 yards out to 75 Punt Wake Forest: Touchdown, from 64 yards out to 0 Touchdown NC State: Turned over on downs, from 60 yards out to 32 Downs Wake Forest: Touchdown, from 68 yards out to 0 Touchdown NC State: Punt, from 75 yards out to 75 Punt Wake Forest: Touchdown, from 66 yards out to 0 Touchdown Q4 NC State: Punt, from 70 yards out to 72 Punt Wake Forest: Punt, from 82 yards out to 73 Punt NC State: Turned over on downs, from 65 yards out to 18 Downs Wake Forest: End of game, from 82 yards out to 87 End of game “Honestly, that was a tremendous drive” An NC State fan How fans reacted Quiet
Fans peaked in the second quarter.
Jump to the loudest stretch
The jump was quiet; the crowd was quiet.
First Second Third Fourth Wake Forest fans NC State fans usual What it cost Wake Forest’s chance to make the playoff rose from 2% to 3%.
Make the playoff
Wake Forest · won 2% → ▲ 3%
NC State · lost 2% → ▼ 1%
Win the conference
Wake Forest · won 2% → ▲ 3%
NC State · lost 2% → ▼ 1%
Before the game (October 9, 2026) → after this result, in our model.
NC State plays at Stanford on Fri Oct 23 with a 1% chance to make the playoff.
Box score Wake Forest 38, NC State 14
Wake Forest covered −4 by 20. The total, 52, stayed under 56.5.
Wake Forest NC State Total yards Wake Forest 387 NC State 258 387 258 Passing yards Wake Forest 303 NC State 243 303 243 Rushing yards Wake Forest 84 NC State 15 84 15 First downs Wake Forest 22 NC State 16 22 16 Turnovers Wake Forest 0 NC State 1 0 1 Time of possession Wake Forest 31:57 NC State 28:03 31:57 28:03 Team totals Wake Forest NC State Total yards 387 258 Passing 26 of 33, 303 yds 29 of 40, 243 yds Rushing 36 for 84 yds 24 for 15 yds First downs 22 16 Third down 7 of 13 6 of 14 Fourth down 2 of 2 1 of 3 Turnovers 0 1 Penalties 6 for 55 yds 5 for 29 yds Time of possession 31:57 28:03
Wake Forest leaders Passing Giovanni Lopez 26 of 33, 303 yds, 3 TDRushing Deuce Lawrence 8 for 46 yds, 1 TD; Jamar Searcy 4 for 28 ydsReceiving Jack Foley 8 for 156 yds, 1 TD; Carlos Hernandez 12 for 117 yds, 1 TDNC State leaders Passing CJ Bailey 28 of 39, 241 yds, 1 TDRushing Davion Gause 7 for 11 yds; Dylan McCoy 3 for 5 ydsReceiving Keenan Jackson 5 for 61 yds; Chance Robinson 3 for 53 yds, 1 TDNo rain and calm 66° at kickoff · 0.01 in of rain · wind 10 mph from the east-northeast, mostly across the field, gusts to 22
October game-day temperatures at Carter-Finley Stadium
Win chance with rain, wind and thunder from the nearest airport, by game time Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 NC State favored Wake Forest favored 0% Win chance NC State Rain inches per 10 min 0.1 in Wind mph, average and gusts 20 mph 40 mph Win chance with rain, wind and thunder from the nearest airport, by game time Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 NC State favored Wake Forest favored Rain · inches per 10 min 0.1 in Wind · miles per hour 20 40 Drag along the chart, or step through the game.
Second quarter, 9:42 left12:55 p.m.
Wake Forest 7, NC State 14 · NC State 72% to win
no rain · wind 9 mph from the east-northeast, mostly across the field, gusts to 16 · 68°
Wilson 2-yd TD pass to Provience, NC State goes ahead 14-7
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Jump to Biggest swing: 23 points of win chance · second Where this weather comes from Measured at Raleigh / Durham airport, 7.2 miles away. Wind and rain are airport readings near the stadium, not on the field. Game times come from the play-by-play, good to a minute or two. Source: National Weather Service, through the Iowa Environmental Mesonet. Field direction from OpenStreetMap contributors.
Before kickoff Recent games, the series and the betting line below are as they stood going in; the season profile is the season so far.
Matchups Biggest mismatch: Wake Forest’s passing EPA against NC State, 87 points Each row ranks the two sides among all teams. The longer the line, the bigger the mismatch.
Wake Forest’s passing EPA against NC State’s defense
87 points weaker stronger 50th Wake Forest offense, 95th percentile · NC State defense, 8th
NC State’s explosive plays against Wake Forest’s defense
73 points weaker stronger 50th NC State offense, 23rd percentile · Wake Forest defense, 96th
Wake Forest’s EPA/play against NC State’s defense
70 points weaker stronger 50th Wake Forest offense, 94th percentile · NC State defense, 24th
Season profile, all the rows Season profile Wake Forest NC State
EPA/play, offense
Wake Forest · 94 NC State · 59 EPA/play, defense
Wake Forest · 64 NC State · 24 Success rate, offense
Wake Forest · 80 NC State · 66 Success rate, defense
Wake Forest · 36 NC State · 39 Explosive-play rate, offense
Wake Forest · 79 NC State · 23 Explosive-play rate, defense
Wake Forest · 96 NC State · 29 Rush EPA, offense
Wake Forest · 85 NC State · 31 Rush EPA, defense
Wake Forest · 65 NC State · 58 Pass EPA, offense
Wake Forest · 95 NC State · 68 Pass EPA, defense
Wake Forest · 67 NC State · 8 The series NC State leads the series 70-43-5
118 meetings since 1908 · NC State won the last meeting
NC State won Wake Forest won 1908: NC State by 76 1908: NC State by 25 1910: NC State by 25 1911: NC State by 8 1912: NC State by 12 1913: NC State by 37 1914: NC State by 51 1915: NC State by 7 1916: NC State by 6 1917: NC State by 11 1918: Wake Forest by 21 1919: NC State by 14 1920: NC State by 42 1921: NC State by 14 1922: NC State by 32 1923: Wake Forest by 14 1924: Wake Forest by 12 1925: NC State by 6 1926: NC State by 4 1927: NC State by 23 1928: NC State by 37 1929: NC State by 2 1930: Wake Forest by 7 1931: Wake Forest by 6 1932: tie 1933: tie 1934: Wake Forest by 1 1935: NC State by 15 1936: Wake Forest by 9 1937: NC State by 20 1938: NC State by 12 1939: Wake Forest by 32 1940: Wake Forest by 6 1941: Wake Forest by 7 1942: tie 1943: Wake Forest by 48 1944: Wake Forest by 14 1945: Wake Forest by 1 1946: NC State by 8 1947: NC State by 20 1948: Wake Forest by 21 1949: NC State by 13 1950: tie 1951: Wake Forest by 15 1952: Wake Forest by 15 1953: Wake Forest by 13 1954: Wake Forest by 26 1955: tie 1956: Wake Forest by 13 1957: NC State by 19 1958: Wake Forest by 6 1959: Wake Forest by 3 1960: NC State by 2 1961: NC State by 7 1962: NC State by 24 1963: NC State by 42 1964: Wake Forest by 14 1965: NC State by 2 1966: NC State by 3 1967: NC State by 17 1968: NC State by 4 1969: Wake Forest by 1 1970: Wake Forest by 3 1971: NC State by 7 1972: NC State by 29 1973: NC State by 39 1974: NC State by 18 1975: Wake Forest by 8 1976: Wake Forest by 2 1977: NC State by 27 1978: NC State by 24 1979: NC State by 3 1980: Wake Forest by 20 1981: NC State by 5 1982: NC State by 30 1983: NC State by 23 1984: Wake Forest by 9 1985: NC State by 3 1986: NC State by 4 1987: Wake Forest by 18 1988: NC State by 8 1989: NC State by 10 1990: NC State by 5 1991: NC State by 27 1992: NC State by 28 1993: NC State by 18 1994: NC State by 31 1995: NC State by 29 1996: NC State by 15 1997: Wake Forest by 1 1998: NC State by 11 1999: Wake Forest by 24 2000: NC State by 18 2001: NC State by 3 2002: NC State by 19 2003: Wake Forest by 14 2004: NC State by 6 2005: Wake Forest by 8 2006: Wake Forest by 2 2007: Wake Forest by 20 2008: NC State by 4 2009: Wake Forest by 6 2010: NC State by 35 2011: Wake Forest by 7 2012: NC State by 31 2013: Wake Forest by 15 2014: NC State by 29 2015: NC State by 18 2016: NC State by 17 2017: Wake Forest by 6 2018: Wake Forest by 4 2019: Wake Forest by 34 2020: NC State by 3 2021: Wake Forest by 3 2022: NC State by 9 2023: NC State by 20 2024: Wake Forest by 4 2025: NC State by 10 1908 2025 2025 NC State 34-24 NC State won 34-24 at Wake Forest. Chance to win started at 60%, low 20%, high 99%. 2024 Wake Forest 34-30 NC State lost 30-34 vs Wake Forest. Chance to win started at 57%, low 7%, high 94%. 2023 NC State 26-6 NC State won 26-6 at Wake Forest. Chance to win started at 45%, low 45%, high 99%. 2022 NC State 30-21 NC State won 30-21 vs Wake Forest. Chance to win started at 38%, low 22%, high 98%. 2021 Wake Forest 45-42 NC State lost 42-45 at Wake Forest. Chance to win started at 47%, low 7%, high 73%. Each line is NC State’s chance to win through that meeting. NC State is 2-3 in the meetings since 2018 that were still close in the fourth quarter.
Line, fans and home field The betting line, and the fans Wake Forest fans are in a better mood than NC State fans (45th vs 2nd among FBS fanbases), even with NC State favored.
50-50 Line · 37% Wake Forest fans · 45th Wake Forest NC State Model · 51% Line · 37% NC State fans · 2nd Wake Forest fans · 45th Wake Forest favored by 4 · Total 56.5
How games like this usually go Wake Forest by 4, and it went to form 50% 90% Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 50% 90% Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Half of games 8 in 10 games This game
The band is where a favorite’s chance ran in the 377 games since 2025 with a favorite of 3.5 to 7.5 points.
The market The total fell 3 points.
opened 59.5 now 56.5 The books’ cut: 4.5%, the margin built into the odds
Home field NC State is worth +6.3 points (±3.5) more at home than on the road since 2018 — top third of FBS, 84th percentile.
75% at home, 41% on the road against FBS opponents (39-13 home, 17-24 away).
Our model gives every stadium the same flat 2.3-point home edge (why ); the books use about 3. Against the closing line this stadium reads +5.6 at home vs. away over 100 games — outside the ±5.3 noise, one of the few buildings where results say more.
The visitors travel about 89 miles to get here.
Last meeting in our History pages