Weber State at Montana State

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Sat, Oct 24 · 3:00 PM ET · Bobcat StadiumAdd to calendar: Google · other

Weber State (5‑3) travels to Montana State (6‑1), with Montana State favored by 25.5. The model gives Montana State a 94% shot.

How they got here

Last three games

Weber State · 5-3

Rated 238th in our preseason ratings, 185th now, up 53 spots.

Three straight wins, capped by a 7-point win over Idaho State as a 4.5-point underdog.

W 27-20 vs Idaho State No. 153 of 668 teams

won by 7 as a 4.5-point underdog

Weber State won 27-20 vs Idaho State. Chance to win started at 45%, low 13%, high 97%.

W 38-27 vs Idaho No. 180 of 668 teams

won by 11 as a 4-point underdog

Weber State won 38-27 vs Idaho. Chance to win started at 65%, low 54%, high better than 99%.

L 41-44 vs Portland State No. 251 of 668 teams

lost by 3 as a 7-point favorite

W 49-20 vs Northwestern State No. 266 of 668 teams

won by 29 as a 35.5-point favorite

Weber State won 49-20 vs Northwestern State. Chance to win started at 99%, low 99%, high better than 99%.

L 21-52 @ Colorado No. 142 of 668 teams

lost by 31 as a 38.5-point underdog

Weber State lost 21-52 at Colorado. Chance to win started at 1%, low under 1%, high 1%.

L 42-47 @ Southern Utah No. 149 of 668 teams

lost by 5 as a 14.5-point underdog

W 30-29 @ Northern Colorado No. 254 of 668 teams

won by 1 as a 3-point underdog

Weber State won 30-29 at Northern Colorado. Chance to win started at 46%, low 25%, high 90%.

Last three games

Montana State · 6-1

Rated 84th in our preseason ratings, 71st now, up 13 spots.

2-1 in its last three — but nothing on this résumé beats a top-40 team yet.

What’s at stake

Weber State

  • Weber State is 1 game back in Big Sky with 3 left to make it up.
  • A win would be one of Weber State’s biggest of the season — a 114-spot gap in the power ratings.

Montana State

  • Montana State is 2 games back in Big Sky with 4 left to make it up.
  • Montana State is coming off a 36-point win.

The series

Montana State leads the series 14-4

18 meetings since 2004 · Montana State has won the last 5

Montana State wonWeber State won2004: Montana State by 32005: Montana State by 32006: Montana State by 62007: Montana State by 162008: Weber State by 232009: Montana State by 52010: Montana State by 142011: Montana State by 202013: Montana State by 182014: Montana State by 102016: Weber State by 182017: Weber State by 82018: Weber State by 102021: Montana State by 62022: Montana State by 52022: Montana State by 82023: Montana State by 402025: Montana State by 5220042025
  • 2025Montana State 66-14
  • 2023Montana State 40-0
  • 2022Montana State 33-25
  • 2022Montana State 43-38
  • 2021Montana State 13-7

Face-off

What each fanbase carries into this one.

Weber State

The chip

Weber State carries no chip — the fanbase is focused on rebuilding from the rubble of 2025.

What this game touches

The 2025 midseason coaching collapse. Weber State went 4–8 (2–6 Big Sky) in 2025 and fired coach Mickey Mental mid-season. The Wildcats were dominant in 2017–2020 under Jay Hill (four consecutive Big Sky titles), then saw that standard evaporate over four years. The 2025 collapse and coaching change is the moment of reckoning: can a rebuild return to the Hill standard, or has the program settled into mid-tier?

Montana State

The chip

Montana's 25-year winning streak (1986–2011), two national championships, and the sense of inevitability that surrounded the Grizzlies created a chip on Montana State's shoulder that lasted decades. Every loss to Montana stung because the rival seemed to be a better program at every level. That chip drove the 2025 season and is now the fuel that keeps Montana State hungry—they have tasted dominance and will not return to second place.

What this game touches

Generational Montana Dominance (1897–2024). For 127 years, Montana State lived in Montana's shadow. The Grizzlies won 11 straight Brawl of the Wild games (1997–2007) and entered 2024 with a commanding 74–44–5 series lead. Worse: Montana won two national championships (1995, 2001) while Montana State waited. The wound was not acute injury but generational futility—the constant reminder that no matter how good the Bobcats were, the rival across the state was always better. 2024 was the nadir: Montana ranked higher, drew better recruiting, and seemed poised to dominate the 2025 season as well.

The betting line, and the fans

Our model and the betting line agree on Montana State’s chances here.

50-50Model 94% · Line 98%Weber StateMontana State

Montana State favored by 25.5 · Total 64.5

Montana State by 25.5: where a favorite like this usually runs

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Half of games8 in 10 games

Montana State’s chance through the game, if this goes like the 412 games since 2025 with a favorite of 21.5 points or more.

Home field

Montana State is worth +10.3 points (±15.6) more at home than on the road since 2018 — top tenth of FBS, 100th percentile.

33% at home, 44% on the road against FBS opponents (1-2 home, 4-5 away).

Our model gives every stadium the same flat 2.3-point home edge (why); the books use about 3. Against the closing line this stadium reads +5.0 at home vs. away over 60 games — inside the ±8.1 noise, so the flat number is the honest one here.

4,946 ft of altitude — real, and smaller than the folklore: high venues run a point or two better against the number, noisily. The visitors travel about 312 miles to get here.

Week by week

Montana State

Wk 2: W 20-7 at Nevada▲13NevadaWk 3: W 35-30 vs Central Connecticut▲5C. Conne…Wk 4: W 28-14 vs Northern Arizona▲14N. Arizo…Wk 5: L 34-35 at Idaho▼1IdahoWk 7: W 56-20 at Eastern Washington▲36E. Washi…
  • Wk 2Wat Nevada20-7
  • Wk 3Wvs Central Connecticut35-30
  • Wk 4Wvs Northern Arizona28-14
  • Wk 5Lat Idaho34-35
  • Wk 7Wat Eastern Washington56-20

Weber State

Wk 3: W 49-20 vs Northwestern State▲29Northwes…Wk 4: L 41-44 vs Portland State▼3Portland…Wk 5: W 42-34 at Cal Poly▲8Cal PolyWk 6: W 38-27 vs Idaho▲11IdahoWk 7: W 27-20 vs Idaho State▲7Idaho St.
  • Wk 3Wvs Northwestern State49-20
  • Wk 4Lvs Portland State41-44
  • Wk 5Wat Cal Poly42-34
  • Wk 6Wvs Idaho38-27
  • Wk 7Wvs Idaho State27-20

Power rating by week

Montana State is rated 9.3 points ahead as of week 8. Our power rating by week; higher is better.

3-5-13Wk 0Wk 4Wk 8Montana StateWeber State

The market

The books’ cut: 5.4%, the margin built into the odds

Conference standings

Going into this game: place in the conference, then conference record.